they believed that all the way to the end and the last week of the campaign and i was out on the road with him, he had these huge crowds at different events and in fact on election day he did a stop in pittsburgh to go visit his election headquarters there and saw a bunch of people up on a parking ramp right at the airport. they hadn't announced the arrival at the airport. they just showed up. they took it as an omen. they thought it was a sign that he was going to win and all the way until the networks called the race on election night that he would be the winner. >> so jonathan, what, then, does that kind of mind do in this situation? i mean, i kind of -- i guess i kind of get the crying. the world makes no sense. >> right. well, the world makes no sense when you live in this bubble where -- just imagine, remember what was happening over at fox news on election night, how they couldn't believe what the rest of the country saw happening and saw it happening for weeks, if not months, this echo chamber that they live in that they are going to win, that their ideas are right, that they